These shorts are outstanding. Almost a board short exterior, but they totally feel like shorts and not a swimming suit. Nice and light. Excellent pockets. My cell phone hasn't yet fallen out of the right side snug pocket, even when sitting down--excellent design. I'm 6'5", 205. Got the 36" waist. Typically a 36" waist sits a little big on me, but these are perfect. If you're an in-betweener (~35" waist), get the 36. Love the no-shipping cost; thanks Overland. Can't wait to take these to SE Asia trip in October.