i said i would be back for the brown one, went out at 25 degrees, and felt good, got the next size up, all hats shrink, and this one has bout 0.5 inch fur, so gotta get next size up, don't worry it'll shrink to a nice fit. you don't want to mash or mat the fur up. now i'm looking forward to the cold with, no worries. got pitch pine blend from montana leather company, the perfect pair.